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00:00 Welcome to VFX Artists React
00:45 Dinosaur
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09:38 Hollow Man
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Fellowship of the Ring was 2001, not 2002 my dudes
Kevin Bacon fully painted in black with black contact lenses actually looks terrifying. Not even Wes Borland can look that creepy.
Haha i mean the movie was super impressive when it came out, i was in 7th grade in 2000, and since third grade loved starship troopers, the thing, predator Romero, i was goddamn impressed and it still holds up
If that's what he looked like as the villain, I think it would have been a much better horror movie.
I remember reading at the time that the already super-disturbing rape scene in that movie was cut down from Paul Verhoeven's original vision, which involved shots so graphic that it would have garnered the movie an NC-17 rating. Talk about creepy!
lol I thought about Wes Borland instantly too. haha
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Hollow Man, boy that was a blast from the past!. I did the lighting of about half of those shots you showed for the smoke extinguisher sequence. It was my very first film and for the life of me I don't know why they would assigned those to me. I spent months thinking "I'm getting fired any minute now", but the VFX supervisor Craig Hayes really talked me through the whole thing day by day in dailies. The lighting comp was pretty close to the final comp and is one of the reasons these shots look so good to this day. And by they way, that was all old fashion lighting and comp tricks done in Renderman, no global illumination or PBR anything back then.
>>I spent months thinking "I'm getting fired any minute now"
Coming from the video game industry, you'd be amazed how often this mindset has produced absolutely insane performances from junior staff. I think only Scott-Cawthon-esque "I'll show YOU" spite is more powerful than "I can't let anyone know I've got no idea what I'm doing so I'm just going to go completely HAM" fear in terms of mountain-moving talent showcases. XD
Not to put a damper on what you guys are saying, but that "I'm being fired any second" mentality is ubiquitous among the working class in America, and is the result of insane wealth inequality. Sure, that type of pressure can help creatives achieve some great art, but don't lose sight of the fact that the people in charge of the money are paying you a fraction of the value you generate for the company. In a sane and civilized society, no one would fear being fired, because being fired wouldn't result in destitution and homelessness.
@choronos agreed that it's an unhealthy state to be in, but they were commenting on the work results not the morality. Something can be extremely efficient but morally dubious at the same time. Just ask apple and their factories in China. That being said it is an important thing to point out as being detrimental to our society and I see your reasoning to point it out so people don't view it as a positive thing.
Congrats man. I recently rewatched this film for a video i'm gonna do on my channel and was astounded how well the VFX stands up to this day. Truly incredible work went into this!!
Props to you, this movie’s visual effects are brilliant, those sequences near the end are excellent, and also has great lighting with the sprinkler scene. I was just wondering, if you ever saw him; what was it like working under Paul Verhoeven. I’ve heard he’s a bit of a nutcase
Dinosaur was a childhood favorite movie for me. I watched it so many times and I still think it holds up pretty well. The mix of CGI and practical environments was really well done
Please look at Meg 2: The Trench! The trailer is a little stinky and also ridiculous.
Dude right?! I just looked through my comments history and I suggested this back in June 27 2020 (#30) and I've been waiting literal years for this
That rain scene from Hollowman is actually mind-blowing 😮.
If they want to see another good water scene, look a the river spirt in Narnia 2.
Hollow Man is a basic horror story with absolutely insane execution. So good.
I really don't like the trope of the monster being so unaffected by hits and damage done to it in this one, because the monster is a "normal" human in it, and should therefore be a total wreck from the first blow delivered to him, but it otherwise has some really great scenes.
@Kim Salmelainen well as far as I remember, the serum was giving him some kind of resistance and power (adrenaline rush). But it's been a long time since I saw it.
@Kim Salmelainen Yh i love the mental toll it takes on him throughout the film. Like when he pervs on his hot neighbour. Starts out as a kind of immature power fantasy any bloke might think of doing if they first got invisible powers but then it starts to take a darker turn as it goes on and he completely loses it by the end.
"It's amazing what you can be capable of when you dont have to look at yourself in the mirror everyday".
Great film.
This is essentially the precursor to Leigh Whannel's 2020 adaptation of H.G. Wells' The Invisible Man.
That work on Hollow Man is genuinely mind blowing. That team pulled off the modern day equivalent of Leonardo da Vinci mastering the human form in his art by studying anatomy. What an achievement. Oh my god. Absolutely insane flex, pardon the pun
The VFX crew took an entire MRI scan of Kevin Bacon's body (including his reproductive organs, mind you), which they were able to convert into a 3D model to animate.
Every time Corridor reacts to cgi dinosaurs, I am a 100% invested
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Dinos best
I see dinosaur, I click
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I'm glad you guys took a look at Dinosaur! I remember being amazed by that movie at the time! Something I remember seeing back in the day was that they composited different elements to make the background unique. Like a sky from one location, a midground from a different location and the foreground from yet another location so it was something that never existed in real life.
Hollow man is one of those movie that just has an okay story, but astonishing film making. Even the Invisible Man from 1933 still looks awesome now.
For a film that's been out over 20 years, Hollow Man still looks fantastic, it looks better than some fx heavy films being released today, it's such a technical achievment
Probably because they gave it the time it needed to make the VFX look great, unlike how modern movies try to churn out VFX for more than less the amount of time
@Krazy K It's also that they used a mixture of physical practical effects whereas today it seems the majority of the effects workload is via software
Hollow Man deserved an episode on this all on its own.
The gorilla turning invisible was phenomenal too!
THANK YOU for consistently adding a clock timer during your video sponsors! It's a luxury us viewers appreciate. I'll watch through them at times just because you give me the timed option to skip.
Here's a recommendation. The creators of The X-Files made a sci-fi series for fox that was one of the first tv series to use extensive photo realistic CG. It was called Space: Above and Beyond, and the work they did remains impressive even today. In addition to the things you'd expect (spaceships and dogfights) there's a ton of CG that flew under everyone's radar in the form of set extensions. The FX house that did much of the work was called Area 51, I believe they also worked on the movie Lord of illusion.
That was a solid show for its time
It's also interesting comparing that to Babylon 5, which only started a couple years earlier, and just how much the CGI quality improved in such a short time. (Of course, Space AAB probably wasn't rendering on Amigas, haha.)
I believe A51 also worked heavily on X-Files and also Dark Skies [remember that one??]. I was a HUGE fan of space above and beyond at the time! There's an article online somewhere about how A51 created thousands of CGI bees for X-Files because whilst they shot the sequences with live bees, the bees did not perform as intended and just like... flew off or something!
I love that Hollow Man is getting the CGI appreciation finally
I've never seen the movie but holy crap it looks amazing visually!
@jedisalamander2457 it's a bit dated in plot, but a very fun 7/10 movie. Kind of a forgotten gem
@jedisalamander I was young when I saw it first time and that shit scared me :))) For me it was like a horror movie. Years later I saw it again, not really that scary, but I was very impressed with the visuals.
I'm pretty sure it was Oscar nominated for VFX.
@Luke Wright I think so as well, but it's been forgotten to time
I was at a special premiere of Dinosaur, where there was a presenter, telling us most of this, before we saw the movie. It's pretty funny to actually see it, with commentary now. I remember LOVING this movie, because I was SO impressed with it, and how it was made.
I would love to see you react to the horse scene from the movie "The Cell".
I was blown away by how good that looked especially for the early 2000s.
They all have very different kinds of body language and expression, but that gleam in the eye when they saw hollow man was universal 😂 true appreciate for the craft
At the start of Dinosaur, after the Carnotaurus attack, an oviraptor steals the egg and takes it across the woods. It crosses a branch across the water. The branch wobbles, touches the water slightly. It's my favorite shot in Dinosaur. Also, the soundtrack is killer.
Would love to see you guys visit the 1998 film "Small Soldiers". Especially on the mixing of practical/miniatures with CGI. Some amazing early work blending the two from the puppet master Stan Winston himself, and a very early Dreamworks (if not mistaken) animation competitor for the Disney rival.
Dinosaur is such a throwback, I was 3 when it came out and recently watched it again (I'm 26 now) and it still holds up well enough for me. Even if it's a very simple, generic story with some dated CGI, it still worked for me🦖🦕😄.
We're practically the same age. The eggs and foot mash with the water is burned into my memory. Loved it.
@RaiOkami SAME😭🦖🦕
@RaiOkami me three, born in '96 and currently 26 as well. I remember watching this on VHS at someone's house
guess were all 26 huh! well i turn 27 next month
26 here too! I loved Dinosaur a lot and really liked the dramatic feel the meteor scene gave off! I think I had a couple toys too 😂❤
The futuristic city scenes from the 1997 Luc Besson movie ''The Fifth Element" really hold up too
That cut to Jake squinting and saying, "You know what I see - "
Legendary transition skills.
I knew it when I saw it as an almost 12 year old, that the movie was changing the industry. Dinosaurs was the most beautiful movie I'd seen up to that point. Looking back it legit seems like a "test movie" toward the future in that they had fur sim, gras/fur sim, animals showing emotion without being cartoons, light changes, swim sim with ripples, the stomp into the ground to get water was just mind blowingly good.
So awesome you guys covered hollow man, that is one I been requesting since the beginning. The effects are so awesome!
I remember having nightmares after seeing The Nutty Professor for the first time. Something about Eddie Murphy growing uncontrollably freaked me out as a kid
My suggestion is to look at Walking With Dinosaurs and it's two sequel series, Walking With Beasts and Walking With Monsters. Really shows some great progression of CGI
And being a documentary that came out a year before Disney's Dinosaurs (1999), Walking with Dinosaurs is the true precursor to Prehistoric Planet.
The behind the scenes of that documentary continues to amaze me to this day, the way they had to adapt to achieve some of the most incredible scenes was revolutionary for the time.
@Mr.Nobody Exactly!
@Mr.Nobody dinosaur actually has a lot od DNA of walking with dinosaurs. the mix between in location shots mixed in with cgi elements being abig element.
I remember watching walking with monsters when i was in my dinosaur phase, and it totally made me drop the dinosaurs for all the incredible and weird things that came before. It's a big part of my childhood and I would love it for the crew to react to it. The CGI also holds up really well, especially for the more murky underwater shots and the morphs showcasing the evolution
Such a good fusion of practical effects and VFX. I had the Walking with Dinosaurs series on video and would watch it on all the time! The behind the scenes are still the best behind the scenes I've ever seen, no lie.
I'm just gonna say this, you guys made my day by reacting to Dinosaur. Absolute childhood favourite right there and definitely made me yell "yes" out loud several times. I remember asking for this at Ep. 30, thanks for fulfilling a request, albeit 3 years late!
Best visual effects shot where I didn’t expect it: y’all already covered it. The shot in Contact where she runs up the stairs, down a hall, and then the camera pulls back from the mirror as she reaches out to it….still blows my mind to this day.
Really loving the recent abundance of dinosaur-based content on this channel
Ugly Betty had some unexpectedly impressive invisible vfx
Also, thanks for covering these old but gold films!
This was my favorite one in a while. Classic VFX knowledge and amazing picks.
Dinosaur always looked awesome. Specifically the Carno’s head peeking through the water while they’re in the cave hiding.
Although SOME of the scenes in dinosaur looked dated there are MANY more where they look absolutely incredible and photorealistic. Especially the scenes with the dry dust and those at night in the cave. I'm surprised they didn't show those and give it that credit
@Errhka Yeah it's kind of insane how well some of those hold up. The cave rain scene terrified me as a kid and even now it's still compelling enough to be effective in instilling fear. Incredible work by the VFX team on that movie.
@Eric Rafael I remember rewatching this a few years back and realizing it was finally starting to look dated. I could really notice where/how the cgi felt off. But the fact it took that long since release, considering how quickly cgi advanced, its actually pretty impressive.
How is that movie almost a quarter century old? 😭
Man Rick Baker’s work is so frigging good! I love when movies use both practical effects with digital ones.
I’ve always said that Hollow Man was way before it’s time, it’s spectacular.
I remember watching Hollow Man in HBO as a little kid and being scared and fascinated at the same time
I love the inclusion of a timeline in this video and comparing different films from this era; great to see the progression of CG and how different companies compared back then. Really interesting stuff.
There are several shots in the original Adams family series of characters laying on a bed of nails. It looks kinda strange but also convincing. Very curious as to how they filmed it.
Great Nutty Professor breakdowns. Would love to see a full episode where you focus on complex cloning shots from movies like “Multiplicity” and “Adaptation”.
It’s great to see how technology works and the evolution of it. It’s amazing to listen your comments about this. I imagine this group of cg artist in the past figuring out how to make the scene. Amazing.❤😊
The VFX scene that sticks out most in my mind as a "whoa...wait..." moment was in Bride of Frankenstein. There's a scene with a bunch of pygmies in jars, and the effect seems pretty straightforward at first but it keeps getting better and better the more you watch. It was so creative and way ahead of its time.
I miss Jordan doing the ads, she’s just out of this world ❤
I was SO stoked for this episode! I recommended Dinosaur on the subreddit months ago with a very detailed post. I rewatched it at the time and was very impressed to this day. There's so much more to say about Dinosaur. For being released in the 2000's I think it holds up so well, and it's because of the lighting and animation, it's not distracting at all, and I can't say that for films that even come out now.
My favorite thing is these videos is how genuinely excited/impressed they are by early innovations. The whole Dinosaur conversation was so fun seeing them react!
Especially Wren. He has the most bestest astonishfaces.
To us they're just movies. To them, it's art.
I’m super excited they did Hollow Man. What a great movie, and the respect it received was on point.
Finally someone talks in depth about the effects on the movie Hollow Man, it's one of the first movies I remember watching ever... I was blown away by how good the effects were back then and I'm still blown away by how they still hold up to this day
Also, great acting from Kevin Bacon
Watching Dinosaur with my kiddos was mind blowing! From the asteroid explosion to the dino foot as it walked out of the sea over those wet river rocks... as a VFX guy, it melted my brain and inspired me for decades.
Great episode! Thanks for providing the historical context with the timeline graphic too - that was a nice touch.
I'm so glad you guys did Hollow Man! It's one of my favourites. One thing Sam didn't mention though: Paul Verhoeven used a camera on a robot arm for a lot of these shots, so he could go back in and also film a clean plate.
Hollow man is absolute insanity. It freaked me out.
Absolutely buzzed to see these shots from Hollowman again. It still looks as good as I remember it.
The creature effects in The Ritual are amazing (and I believe they were done by Andy Serkis’ studio)
As an almost 40 yr old, this series does often give me that "my generation was the best generation" vibe (that every generation has). We got to witness the beginnings of CGI and see how far it's come in just 40 years. Crazy to think what I'll be seeing in 40 more.
Dinosaur was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Loved watching this breakdown!
Dinosaur is one of my favorite movies growing up, still love it today with the animation. It holds up well to me
The extended trailer for Dinosaur that played before Toy Story 2 was one of the most mind blowing things I ever saw in theaters. Wish I could re-experience that feeling again. The extended trailer was just the egg travels scene.. Movie has not aged well at all unfortunately.
You are right, it hasn't aged well as compared to Hollowman.
But, Dinosaur was able to achieve what it was set out to do and many of our generation were blown away and were made to believe and learn more about dinos. This and Jurassic Park shaped how I imagined dinosaurs as a kid and that's what I think I will carry on as I age.
Then again, I'm pretty sure even the mind blowing VFX and CGI work of today will likely get outdated too in a few years time as we closely get more powerful (yet cheaper) tech to get closer to actual photoreal.
I was just thinking of this and trying to remember which VHS it was!! I remember that trailer SO clearly and remember being blown away as a kid 😂
I remember that scene playing before Tarzan on VHS. I never let my brother and sister skip it because I was so obsessed.
I remember being so amazed by both hollow man and dinosaur as a kid.
It's a shame they didn't discuss the cave scene with the carnotaurs out front. That scene was terrifying as a kid and looked so real.
I would love a whole video dedicated to Hollow Man it's such a great movie
Burberrys Open spaces is a great use of wirework, could be cool to see a combo of vfx artists and stuntmen react together in one episode
I think Hollow Man is a really underappreciated movie. It really dives into how there's really no ethical uses for invisibility.
Does that movie try to make that point? I didn't get that impression when I saw it a long time ago. One thing it could be useful is simply being able to remain private in public. Maybe it doesn't have espectacular uses, but only ordinary, simple, or unimpressive ones.
This series can never get old lol
Since it isn't over yet, that's true.
I think they're struggling to find stuff they haven't talked about before lol
Fight Club's CGI headshot at the end is incredibly impressive for 1999.
There are a couple shots in the 1986 Labyrinth that are kind of cool, like the stair scene. I kind of want to know if the baby throwing scene is a good comp job or a puppet. Also it's just a very fun movie. Also the dark crystal (same puppeteer I believe) has some really cool vfx that might be worth checking out.
I love that you guys brought up Hollow Man. I remember seeing the movie in the movie theatre in 2000 and being pretty blown away by the effects. I was actually supposed to see Vertical Limit but my cousin had a fear of heights. Hollow Man in the end was more entertaining and far more technically impressive. I still watch it from time to time. The effects definitely still hold up really well throughout the movie that I forget that it is already almost a quarter of a century old... and saying that made me feel old lol.
Main thing i remember from that flick is his neighbour's amazing rack lol 😅
Much respect to these guys analyzing these films the way they do.
The hollow man clip reminds me of a cgi version of the wonderful body horror that is Frank in Hellraiser. Some of the best practical horror effects ever in that movie!
I neeeed the Crew to do Frank.
The opening scene from Toy Story 4 with RC trapped in the drain gutter straight up shocked me w how realistic it looked. Not only rain, but mud, leaves, “shot” at night, “lit” by a flashlight you can 100% feel the struggle. All for a purpose too: it sets the mood and tone for the rest of the movie.
I was not a fan of the plot of that movie but damn was in the most exquisite looking Pixar film since Wall E
@Joelle Clover right?? I couldn’t believe it sometimes
So glad you finally got around to Hollow Man - those effects were absolutely stunning. I can't imagine the hours the artists had to put in to track those shots. The fact that it can outshine even some work of today's movies is a testament to the dedication of that crew.
I'll add that the pool scene from Hollow Man was also really well done.
The Cat In The Hat has some crazy vfx scenes and you’d never expect it. The live action version
I'm delighted to see you guys tackle 'Dinosaur' at last; I think it tends to be overlooked a lot these days, but I remember how big and exciting of a deal it was when it first released.
I also appreciated the acknowledgement to 'Prehistoric Planet' - although, I think missed an opportunity for a callback to the LAST time you discussed the show, when you looked at the same dinosaur, Carnotaurus, being featured there too! (the silly courtship segment) I would love to see how you'd react to a side-by-side-by-side of 'Dinosaur', 'Prehistoric Planet', and 'Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom', reviewing how each of them approached Carnotaurus with their differences in technology, creature design, and story intent.
They did Hollowman!!!! I’m so happy it was such an amazing thing at the time and still holds up so well
The Fountain is a movie that deserves a look. Stunningly beautiful masterpiece of a film. Pretty unique scenes would make good breakdowns such as a man turning into flowers and a tree transcending space and time. Holds up well for a nearly 20 year old film.
Gotta respect Darren Aronofsky as a filmmaker. He takes big swings. They might not always get knocked out of the park, but he swings nonetheless. All of his movies are creative and varied, and each one is never like the last. A very underrated visionary.
Heck yes!
@eyespy3001 His films speak to those who need to hear it when they need it most. His works are art, not just flashy visual noise. Certainly underrated, but that tends to go hand in hand with those not afraid to pursue a vision over a franchise or brand.
I really really liked that movie. I should watch it again.
There are a ton of more indie movies they should look at. I imagine they have to think about viewership, though. I don't know how many people would sit through a segment about one of the most existential films ever made.
I remember going to the cinema and seeing the disney dinosaur trailer, it was the idea of the film with the egg being taken from one place to another, It was mindblowing!
I’d love to hear you guys’ take on the alien reveal in “Signs”- if the CG holds up and if it’s more the build up than the effect itself that makes it impactful.
Cannot wait for the crews’ reaction to Oppenheimer. It’s going to blow everyone away and from a VFX purest, would be even more astonishing
Its funny when they explain ambient occlusion every time, bc as someone who has watched every episode in the series im very familiar with it 😂
It took me months, but I've finally caught up on this show after being about 50 eps behind! Hopefully I can maintain watching along now.
Oh my gosh thank you SO MUCH for finally doing Dinosaur! One of my favorite films growing up and just fantastic visually.
Dinosaur was so integral to my childhood. I don't know if the movie is "good" or still holds up today, but damn do I have strong nostalgia for it
I'd love to see you guys cut these videos and paste them together to give us a long detailed explanation of how SFX advanced since the beginning of film. I love learning how each movie had "the first" use of something or where something new was invented for it, but I think it would be really awesome to see it chronologically, even if it's just a summary.
Dinosaur BLEW my little mind with the CGI when it came out. Definitely one of my favorite films at the time
The dinosaur trailer is still one of the most impressive movie trailers ever in my opinion. It was absolutely mind blowing when it came out. (Sadly the trailer ended up being the best part of the movie lol)
I watched the movie Sea Beast, the Netflix rippoff of How To Train Your Dragon, and unbelievably blown away by the opening monster hunt scene. It might be best animated VFX I've ever seen. I'd love to see you guys react to that.
You should totally compare the new prehistoric planet to walking with dinosaurs by the BBC in 1999.
Good suggestion!
id love to hear about the effects in the 1998 Merlin mini series, it was a weird mix of of great effects and terrible effects. Martin Short had some great transformation in that one.
Yall ever thought about doing full movie breakdowns? Going through an entire movies' fx shots and explaining what they did to achieve them sounds very interesting to me
Would love to see you guys react to the VFX in the three Chronicles of Narnia films! A lot of really great early CGI animals creatures combined with puppets. Plus they mix real landscapes with both miniatures and CGI. Some of it has aged really well, some of it looks kind of dated. Would love to hear your thoughts!
One of my favourite vfx of all time is the drop ship that comes to save them in aliens before crashing, when it flys over in the rain I genuinely don't understand how they managed it in the 80's it looks flawless, would love to know what you guys think!
I loved Dinosaur when I was younger. Awesome to see them cover it!
I don't know if it's ever been done but Small Soldiers, wow. Watched it again after years and how they did this way back then is incredible.
I always wondered about Hallow Man. I remember watching it as a kid. Another movie that comes to mind is Virus, the one about a crew of people searching a ghost ship. I'm not sure if there is any CGI in it, but it's probably worth a look!
The hollowman movie, when it came out on DVD and I watched it, having worked at a DVD rental store at the time, I actually remember thinking that we have hit a new era of VFX and I couldn't believe how good the VFX was
Dude that dinosaur movie is so nostalgic and literally just gave it a rewatch yesterday, perfect timing.
Man, what a throwback with Dinosaur. That was one of the only movies we had on vhs when i was a kid, and i loved it.
Hollowman shot each scene twice with camera motion tracking. One with the actors and then again with a shot which tracked the movement of the previous scene without the actors. This is how the water goes through Hollowman and looks real.
I loved that Dinosaur movie, the carnivorous dinosaurs scared me as a child
Dinosaur had one of the most breathtaking opening scenes at that time, paired with an absolutely banger soundtrack.
As for recommendations: I would love to see your takes on the harbour scene from Speed 2 if you haven't done that one yet. There is some wonky CGI in there and some great miniature work. All in all, it's a glorious destruction scene.
I always loved the visual effects on the 1998 Guisness surfer ad (with the horses). I'd love to see you thoughts on that, and maybe some other adverts too 😊
that dinosaur greenscreen workflow is a thing of beauty